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treatment...anyone know where we can view the episodes?Queen Of Cleanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06458110358006492768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430827523235519471.post-69404093924071658702008-01-09T00:04:00.000+00:002008-01-09T00:04:00.000+00:00BBB: "I say spread the chickens out" me too, all o...BBB: "I say spread the chickens out" me too, all over a toasted bun with jalapenos, mayo, onion, and crispy bacon....mmmmmmmmm no offense mind....Manuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16333257013163173911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430827523235519471.post-25738348322116820142008-01-08T19:58:00.000+00:002008-01-08T19:58:00.000+00:00We won't be overrun with foxes but ask any farmer ...We won't be overrun with foxes but ask any farmer who keeps his outside if he has a fox problem and what he does about it. In N.I. the chicken industry is huge producing much more than we can eat and supplying most of the output overseas. You'd have to give over thousands of fields to free range and the number of foxes would increase markedly because of the easy availability of captive food.<BR/><BR/>What I'm saying is this would merely transfer the problem. The very same people who would be up in arms about battery hens will also be vehemently anti any means of controlling the foxes. And the foxes would have to be hunted or trapped and put down to control their population. Happy chickens. Unhappy foxes. Still complaints.<BR/><BR/>I say spread the chickens out. Make it law to massively increase their space but it would have to be done at a European level, not domestic. Still battery hens but happier battery hens. Battery farming also largely protects against the spread of an outbreak of bird flu. It would be impossible to do this if all chickens were free range.<BR/>There is no magic wand.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430827523235519471.post-86438174673949465112008-01-08T18:36:00.000+00:002008-01-08T18:36:00.000+00:00muddy: it's a good point.....i'm not sure I could....muddy: it's a good point.....i'm not sure I could.....Manuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16333257013163173911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430827523235519471.post-90179541033124835552008-01-08T18:26:00.000+00:002008-01-08T18:26:00.000+00:00BBB tell me you are joking re the hordes of free r...BBB tell me you are joking re the hordes of free range hens making the fox population explode?<BR/><BR/>That's like people (seriously) telling me that you have to eat the cows other wise there would be too many of them.<BR/><BR/>To all meat eaters, if you can't kill it yourself then don't eat it.Mudflapgypsyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12398497408759954068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430827523235519471.post-50633559176125172792008-01-08T18:04:00.000+00:002008-01-08T18:04:00.000+00:00Nikc/Nick: takes a man from here to step up eh.......Nikc/Nick: takes a man from here to step up eh.....I wonder if he has been getting much abuse....Manuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16333257013163173911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430827523235519471.post-6780983565542024952008-01-08T18:02:00.000+00:002008-01-08T18:02:00.000+00:00LBTW: I have that very meat book......more food po...LBTW: I have that very meat book......more food porn.....it's a quality number<BR/><BR/>Sheepo: persevere.......it's your right to "worry"<BR/><BR/>Dennis: settle......oh you Americans and your funny spelling.....center? color? tut tut tut<BR/><BR/>bbb: I disagree.....just because it's difficult to do doesn't mean we shouldn't do it. I don't think the country would all of a sudden be over run with chickens.....funny though if it did happen....<BR/><BR/>Is it just me?: stop it....you're making me blush.....Manuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16333257013163173911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430827523235519471.post-5082252632387754672008-01-08T18:01:00.000+00:002008-01-08T18:01:00.000+00:00Er, that should read nick. Obviously I've been loc...Er, that should read nick. Obviously I've been locked up in the dark for too long....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430827523235519471.post-5362361860265834732008-01-08T17:59:00.000+00:002008-01-08T17:59:00.000+00:00Yes, the first programme was great viewing, lookin...Yes, the first programme was great viewing, looking forward to the other two. Very telling that the big poultry farms refused to let him anywhere near them - it'd be far too shocking to all those chicken-loving shoppers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430827523235519471.post-1246250938768504662008-01-08T16:53:00.000+00:002008-01-08T16:53:00.000+00:00'My hard Flirted tips'...*Laughs hard*.You're dead...'My hard Flirted tips'...*Laughs hard*.<BR/>You're dead right here Manuel.<BR/>I saw the river cottage guy do a prog a while back where he tried to teach people who lived in (dodgy) chicken wings how to cook using real food and happy chickens and his success rate was astounding once he'd shown the guys how these cheap chickens were kept and killed.Even the unemployed mum of six had to admit that by buying a better class of bird and actually using the ENTIRE bird, she wold save money and feed her family good food while discouraging the factory breeding of chickens.<BR/>Well done..great minds indeed.<BR/>Ps I'm nominating you SEVERAL times for the Irish blog awards so you'd better come along.Is it just me?https://www.blogger.com/profile/10916235213655646609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430827523235519471.post-5427138103239909502008-01-08T14:48:00.000+00:002008-01-08T14:48:00.000+00:00I know the battery hen thing isn't good but we eat...I know the battery hen thing isn't good but we eat too much chicken to have them all running free range. In fact we're a massive exporter of chicken which is why they want to build a power plant running on the remains offal.<BR/>If you had all those chickens running free range the hunting lobby would be doing their nut as within a handful of years the fox population will have exploded (and farmers won't want to lose many slow growing £8 chickens to them).<BR/><BR/>Better conditions, yes but ban battery farming, no.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430827523235519471.post-9541843634024184992008-01-08T13:21:00.000+00:002008-01-08T13:21:00.000+00:00Best post yet, Manuel. Well done. But you spelled ...Best post yet, Manuel. Well done. But you spelled "program" wrong.<BR/><BR/>Peace,<BR/><BR/>- Dennis<BR/>www.donttipthewaiter.blogspot.comGODhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13142285993824656408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430827523235519471.post-83986722971054232612008-01-08T12:58:00.000+00:002008-01-08T12:58:00.000+00:00Manuel: Indeed I do love the animals, but the farm...Manuel: Indeed I do love the animals, but the farmers don't seem to like it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430827523235519471.post-29252153394574847092008-01-08T12:44:00.000+00:002008-01-08T12:44:00.000+00:00I love meat, but totally agree - buy the very best...I love meat, but totally agree - buy the very best free range happy meat you can afford, and if that means you don't eat meat every day, then don't eat meat every day. <BR/><BR/>Hugh F-W's "Meat" book is well worth a read too. <BR/><BR/>It's why I buy a whole chicken now rather than pieces and boil up the carcase for soup once I've finished rending the flesh with my teeth.livesbythewoodshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13660484415596484648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430827523235519471.post-52818607986646683952008-01-08T11:29:00.000+00:002008-01-08T11:29:00.000+00:00Mj: i got attacked by a cock once.....true story.....Mj: i got attacked by a cock once.....true story...<BR/><BR/>boxer:the friends you keep!<BR/><BR/>gypsy: i'm with you on that gypsy....<BR/><BR/>old k(fc): chicken flucker...<BR/><BR/>bbb: yes you are right....but that's no excuse to let them live literally in shit...<BR/><BR/>flirty: very good point...<BR/><BR/>sheepo: ah I knew you would be a lover of animals...they set the bad standards as it is.....the food standards/defra types that is...Manuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16333257013163173911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430827523235519471.post-86082214912821650182008-01-08T10:55:00.000+00:002008-01-08T10:55:00.000+00:00Standing in the dark, wading through their own shi...Standing in the dark, wading through their own shite... anyone else see a similarity to stormont here?<BR/><BR/>I've seen plenty of animals being killed and skinned so it doesn't hold the same horror for me, but that type of chicken farming just seems unneccesarily cruel. Would the RSPCA/Food Standards not have something to say?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430827523235519471.post-73177083297545591452008-01-08T10:24:00.000+00:002008-01-08T10:24:00.000+00:00I worry when a bag of apples is more expensive tha...I worry when a bag of apples is more expensive than a Chicken, something has to be wrong!Flirty Somethinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18327184509029301288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430827523235519471.post-18549486912569897982008-01-08T10:20:00.000+00:002008-01-08T10:20:00.000+00:00I imagine they kill them all the same way, free ra...I imagine they kill them all the same way, free range or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430827523235519471.post-6148461504891145082008-01-08T07:42:00.000+00:002008-01-08T07:42:00.000+00:00Its only chickens for fucks sake,they all come out...Its only chickens for fucks sake,they all come out the same way so I'd rather not pay more for that.<BR/><BR/>Why should chickens be happy? give the battery hens anti-depressants and keep eggs cheap cheap.Old Knudsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03880108077729502539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430827523235519471.post-68025330436243302962008-01-08T06:40:00.000+00:002008-01-08T06:40:00.000+00:00You are right about us never thinking how that flu...You are right about us never thinking how that fluffy animal/feathered bird ended up on our plate. Dammit Manuel I LOVE my chicken and now I feel too guilty to eat it. <BR/><BR/>That sounds like a tv show I definitely couldn't watch. I can't even watch the RSPCA shows because to get to the happy ending you first have to witness the cruelty inflicted on our animal friends by the likes of us fucked up humans. Sometimes I am so ashamed to be part of the human race. Seriously.....Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14339140046788925506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430827523235519471.post-20384407526765367772008-01-08T05:47:00.000+00:002008-01-08T05:47:00.000+00:00I stopped eating chicken many moons ago after I re...I stopped eating chicken many moons ago after I read an article in ATLANTIC MONTHLY about a processing plant. I'm a vegetarian because I won't/can't eat a mammal... and Native Minnow's comment IS a bit concerning... kinda scary that's he a professor.... and is impacting young minds.Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11280822962202098606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430827523235519471.post-77338323025623037842008-01-08T04:52:00.000+00:002008-01-08T04:52:00.000+00:00I'm having difficulty thinking up a chicken-relate...I'm having difficulty thinking up a chicken-related title that doesn't involve the word "cock."The Mistresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07109289531733623207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430827523235519471.post-48712689933857633412008-01-08T02:10:00.000+00:002008-01-08T02:10:00.000+00:00Native minnow: you're a strange fella eh....Native minnow: you're a strange fella eh....Manuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16333257013163173911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7430827523235519471.post-74614482194510244612008-01-08T02:06:00.000+00:002008-01-08T02:06:00.000+00:00In high school my job was to clean a meat packing ...In high school my job was to clean a meat packing plant. It wasn't pretty, but it didn't make me go off meat either. I did, however, have difficulty eating cherry pie for a while.Native Minnowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12061575657412426256noreply@blogger.com